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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    it's more like Butler than Reynolds IMO
    "An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    NEWPORT NEWS, Va. -- Virginia Tech players were out of control during the first half of the Gator Bowl, and Hokies quarterback Marcus Vick should have been ejected for stomping on a prone Louisville defender, the game's referee said Wednesday.

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    Steve Usecheck, a Big 12 Conference official who led the crew for Monday's game, called Tech's first-half taunting and late hits the worst he's seen in his 22 seasons. He said that no official saw Vick stomp the back of Elvis Dumervil's leg while Dumervil was down on the turf late in the second quarter.

    "We missed that, and I'm sorry we did," Usecheck told the Newport News Daily Press from his Colorado home. "The TV, everybody saw it but us. I wish we had the opportunity to talk to (Vick) because that was complete (expletive). You bet I would have thrown his ass out."

    Usecheck said he has not seen a replay of the Vick incident but that purposely stomping a defenseless opponent warrants ejection. NBC showed the incident several times during its Gator Bowl telecast, and the footage has aired countless times since on ESPN and other networks. Tech athletic director Jim Weaver has called Vick's action "unacceptable" and vowed to punish him.

    Officials called five personal fouls against the Hokies during the first half -- four that cost Tech yardage and one that was offset by a Louisville personal foul.

    "I was really disappointed," Usecheck said. "We don't see football like that (in the Big 12). Those kids were just completely out of control. Louisville wasn't as bad. Virginia Tech was brutal."

    Usecheck ejected Hokies All-America cornerback Jimmy Williams in the first quarter for swinging his arm at head linesman Al Green. Williams was jawing with Louisville's Amobi Okoye, and Green grabbed Williams to separate the two.

    "He never hit the official but he swung at him twice," Usecheck said of Williams, a senior from Bethel High.

    During the standard meeting of team captains prior to the second half, Usecheck said he told the players, "I don't care if I'm out here until midnight calling penalties. This has got to stop."

    The second half was incident-free aside from offsetting personal fouls early in the fourth quarter, and the Hokies rallied to win 35-24.

    Tech coach Frank Beamer was traveling Wednesday and could not be reached. But immediately following the game, Beamer said: "I'm not happy with some things that went on in the first half. Let's leave it at that."

    Weaver said it would be inappropriate for him to comment on the Hokies' overall behavior because he viewed the game from the press-box level and not the field.

    "That's more an issue for Frank," Weaver said of Usecheck's remarks.

    But Weaver reaffirmed his promised to discipline Vick, first-team All-ACC this season as a junior.

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    "We've got to deal with it in a fair and firm manner, but you just can't go off half-cocked," Weaver said. "We'll get it done, I'll guarantee it."

    Having Vick away from campus on semester break and Beamer on the road recruiting slows the process, according to Weaver, who estimated he's received 200 e-mails about the Vick incident.

    "It's a discouraging time because we should be happy and celebratory of an 11-2 season and a great comeback in the fourth quarter," Weaver said. "People are concerned and think it was inappropriate behavior. They're embarrassed and we're embarrassed."

    Also Wednesday, Governor-elect Tim Kaine expressed disappointment in Vick's actions.

    "I thought it was kind of heart sickening when I saw the replay," Kaine said in response to a question. "I didn't see it live. (Athletes are) role models, whether they embrace that or not. It just really sends a bad signal. My 13-year-old son is a Tech fanatic, and he's watching that game and it takes something off the experience for him when he sees that. It really does."

    Kaine said he would not advise Virginia Tech administrators about how to respond.

    "I'm not going to tell the university what step they should take," he said. "I can tell from the comments in the paper that they take it seriously, and they need to."


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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    That guy should be a local official [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    Sounds like he's trying to a)make himself out to be part of the game, b)using language that if a player said he would probably toss in a second

    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    Same thing, he was basically trying to inflict pain after a play was over. Dont even bring Nate Webster into this, im not saying anything about this argument good or bad, Im just saying that you would think that he would learn from everything else that has happend to him.

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

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    if that were the case he should never be allowed within 100 feet of a stadium again

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    I'll agree its amplified due to his past and he should have the braincells to avoid being in that time of situation.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    The Newport News Daily Press has a couple of stories on both he and Williams. I believe that the AD, Weaver, has had over 200 e-mails about Vick and his actions. The coach and the AD may be over ruled if it is only one game. If it is two or three games he may not accept the suspension. I want be shocked if it turns out to be that many games. His past actions have brought a lot of bad press upon Virginia Tech and this may be a good time to force him to leave and put and end to the bad press. Williams will be gone and that will remove his bad press. Read the Daily Press out of Newport News.
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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    haha i was hoping youd catch it was a joke
    "An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."

    -Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    one game suspension pending schoolwork and actions in the offseason
    "An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."

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    Re: Vick to miss the 2006 opener

    Yeah--I had a whole big rant written, about 10 nice long paragraphs of a nice well-thought out argument as to why it was a double-standard stance you had taken...

    Then I realized it was a joke...hehehe [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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